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August 4, 2021

What is the purpose of Independent School? [S1.E4]

A continued conversation with John Gulla.
August 4, 2021

Will we snap back and forget the lessons we’ve learned? [S1.E2]

A conversation with Heather Hoerle and Jeff Shields.
August 3, 2021

What do we do when we're asked an impossible question? [S1.E1]

A conversation with hosts Hans Mundahl & Ari Betof.
August 3, 2021

Addressing Impossible Questions [Ep.95]

July 23, 2021

Managing Change in Independent Schools [Ep.94]

A Conversation with Dr. Mary Halpin Carter and Tom Olverson
June 4, 2021

What is Your Recipe for Retention? [Ep.93]

A conversation with Brandi Eppolito.
May 25, 2021

Let's Redesign the External Functions of the School [Ep.92]

A conversation with Jennifer Hillen and Ann Snyder
May 25, 2021

Exclusivity and Access in Higher Education [Ep.91]

A conversation with Jeff Selingo.
May 7, 2021

The Ride to Independent Schools 2020-2021 [Ep.90]

A conversation with Chuck English
April 12, 2021

The Biggest Problems to Solve [Ep.89]

A conversation with John Gulla and Grant Lichtman.
April 1, 2021

Six More Predictions for 2021 [Ep.88]

A conversation with Susan Emery, Suzanne Walker Buck, Nicole Oakes, Tim Fish, Kelly Page, and David Willows.
March 1, 2021

Six Predictions for 2021 [Ep.87]

February 8, 2021

Is Constrained Optimization the Future of Admissions? [Ep.85]

A conversation with Dr. Rebecca Zwick.
February 8, 2021

Thoughtful, Agile & Intentional: Independent Schools and COVID-19 [Ep.86]

A conversation with John Katzman.
January 8, 2021

Reimagined From the Ground Up: Northfield Mount Hermon's Lab Program [Ep.84]

A conversation with Brian Hargrove and Grant Gonzalez.
January 8, 2021

Anti-Racism Best Practices for Independent Schools [Ep.83]

A conversation with Dr. Derrick Gay.
December 14, 2020

We’re All In This Together: How one group of enrollment leaders is working together to better serve families [Ep.82]

A conversation with Julie Wadland.
December 9, 2020

Re-inventing the International Student Program at Oaks Christian School [Ep.81]

A conversation with Nicole Oakes.
November 23, 2020

Redefining the Independent School Business Model at Providence Country Day School [Ep.79]

A conversation with Kevin Folan.
November 23, 2020

Stop Strategic Planning & Start ‘Strategic Do-ing’: How Baylor School Opened a COVID-19 Testing Lab [Ep.80]

A conversation with Dallas Joseph.
October 23, 2020

Live from AC20: a conversation with Homa Tavangar and Will Richardson [Ep.77]

October 23, 2020

Lessons From Higher Ed: The Role of Character in College Admission [Ep.78]

A conversation with Trisha Anderson and Brennan Barnard.
October 23, 2020

How Enrollment Leaders Can Think Like Rocket Scientists [Ep.76]

A conversation with Ozan Varol
September 15, 2020

Who Gets In and Why: A Year Inside College Admissions [Ep.75]

A conversation with Jeff Selingo
September 3, 2020

Fall Reopening: A Multi-Layered Approach at Avenues: The World School [Ep.74] [Sept 3]

A conversation with Matt Lai and Dave Buckwald.
August 21, 2020

Fall Reopening: An All Remote Approach at Stoneleigh-Burnham School [Ep.73] [August 21]

A conversation with Kristen Mariotti.
August 13, 2020

Bennett Labs: Innovation with Intent to Share [Ep.71] [August 13]

A conversation with Dr. Kelly Page.
August 13, 2020

Fall Reopening: A Hybrid Approach at Tampa Prep [Ep.72] [August 17]

A conversation with Kevin Plummer.
July 29, 2020

Fall Reopening: An In-Person Approach at Randolph-Macon Academy [Ep.70] [July 29]

A conversation with David C. Wesley, USAF, Retired.
July 23, 2020

The Governor Declared Schools Will Be Online in the Fall… Now What? [Ep.69] [July 23]

A conversation with Mark McKee and Laurel Baker Tew
July 10, 2020

Whittle GO! How One School Launched an Online Program [Ep.68] [July 10]

A conversation with Dr. Susan Emery.
June 29, 2020

Hungry, Humble & Nimble [Ep.67] [June 29]

A conversation with Anne-Marie Kee
June 26, 2020

Lessons From the Front Lines: From School Business Office to Long Term Care [Ep.66] [June 26]

A conversation with Melissa Orth.
June 18, 2020

Does Admission Have a Strategy Problem or a Tactics Problem [Ep.65]

A conversation with Professor Nathan Grawe.
June 18, 2020

Boarding School Enrollment Check In: We Go to our Values [Ep.64] [June 18]

A conversation with John Barrengos.
June 8, 2020

Introducing the Heads Podcast [Ep.63]

A conversation with Peter & Hans.
June 3, 2020

Head of School Podcast: What Is Enrollment Management [S1.E2]

What every head needs to know about enrollment management.
June 3, 2020

Head of School Podcast: Framing the Problem [S1.E1]

What every head needs to know about enrollment management.
June 3, 2020

Head of School Podcast: How the Customer Has Changed [S1.E4]

What every head needs to know about enrollment management.
June 3, 2020

Head of School Podcast: The Enrollment Management Leader [S1.E6]

What every head needs to know about enrollment management.
June 3, 2020

Head of School Podcast: How the Admission Funnel Has Changed [S1.E3]

What every head needs to know about enrollment management.
June 3, 2020

Head of School Podcast: The Role of Price [S1.E5]

What every head needs to know about enrollment management.
May 28, 2020

To Lower Tuition or Not To Lower Tuition? [Ep.61] [May 28]

A conversation with Jay Rainey.
May 28, 2020

Make Better Use of Your Enrollment Data [Ep.62]

A conversation with Lisa Pullman.
May 19, 2020

Stimulate the Base: Bucking K-8 enrollment headwinds [Ep.60]

A conversation with Amy Jolly.
May 19, 2020

Colleges plan the fall: on campus, online, or hybrid? [Ep.59] [May 19]

A conversation with Jeff Selingo
May 8, 2020

Paul LeBlanc from Southern New Hampshire University [Ep.58] [May 8]

Redefining and Reimagining Campus-Based Learning
May 4, 2020

From Enrollment Leader to Head of School [Ep.57]

A conversation with Jason Warnick
May 1, 2020

The Power of Serving Others [Ep.56] [May 1]

A conversation with Jason Kreutner.
April 27, 2020

Reconsidering your tuition for the fall? [Ep.55] [April 27]

A conversation with Tom Sheppard
April 20, 2020

Steps to Financial Sustainability in a Time of COVID-19 [Ep.53] [April 20]

A conversation with Ari Betof
April 20, 2020

Beyond the College List: Value, Parents & Independent School Enrollment [Ep.54]

A conversation with Leigh Moore
April 3, 2020

Learning How to Pivot [Ep.52] [April 3]

A conversation with Dr. Greg Martin.
March 30, 2020

Enrollment in Uncertain Times: Values, Kindness & Being Heard [Ep.50] [March 30]

A conversation with David Willows.
March 30, 2020

Ensure Enrollment in the Fall by Thriving Today [Ep.51] [March 31]

A conversation with Ian Symmonds
March 26, 2020

How to adopt a startup mentality at your school [Ep.48] [March 25]

A conversation with Kirk Wheeler.
March 26, 2020

Announcing EMA's Idea Factory: A free online unconference [Ep.49] [March 25]

April 2, 2020 - stay tuned for details and sign up information!
March 24, 2020

Financial aid in uncertain times: questions every school must ask today [Ep.47] [March 23]

A conversation with Mark Mitchell
March 21, 2020

Now is a Good Time to Launch an Idea Factory [Ep.46] [March 21]

Join us for a conversation with Suzanne Walker Buck, Head of School at Western Reserve Academy.
March 19, 2020

COVID-19: A Conversation with NAIS [Ep.45] [March 19]

A conversation with Tim Fish and Donna Orem.
March 18, 2020

COVID-19: A story from a school on the front line [Ep.44] [March 17]

A conversation with Rob Phillips from Seattle Academy
March 14, 2020

COVID-19 What We're Hearing [Ep.43] [March 13]

A joint conversation with EMA & NBOA.
March 9, 2020

Recruiting International Students: Trends, Opportunities & Pitfalls [Ep.42]

February 18, 2020

The Double Edged Sword of Diversity [Ep.41]

Dr. Derrick Gay is an internationally recognized consultant to businesses, educational, arts, and philanthropic organizations around the world regarding issues of diversity and inclusion.
February 10, 2020

Independent School Coronavirus Webinar [Ep.40] [Feb 10]

February 5, 2020

Let's start a satellite campus! A conversation with Sean Duncan [Ep.39]

January 22, 2020

Pathway to Leadership: A Conversation with Inez Odom [Ep.38]

January 13, 2020

Every school should be thinking about a merger [Ep.37]

Every school should be thinking about a merger, acquisition, or partnership. That’s the message Chad Tew, founder of LearnCollab.
December 16, 2019

Small Colleges are Under Threat, This School is Reinventing Itself [Ep.36]

A small school facing enrollment challenges and under threat from powerful external forces makes tough choices to reinvent itself. Sound familiar? Think we’re talking about an independent school?
December 4, 2019

Admission Scandal: Ethics, Consulting & Higher Ed [Ep.35]

When the college admission scandal broke, Mark Sklarow was inundated with calls.
November 18, 2019

Pathway to Leadership: A conversation with Reiva Kibbee [Ep.34]

What is your pathway to leadership? That's a question we dig into in detail with Reiva Kibbee, Director of Enrollment Management at the Oldfields School outside Baltimore, Maryland.
October 25, 2019

Creating a Culture of Retention at Lakefield College School [Podcast Ep.33]

A conversation with David Darby and Heather Avery
October 10, 2019

School Consolidation: A Roadmap for Successfully Assuming Another Institution [Podcast Ep.32]

Are you considering acquiring another school? Do you wonder if your school would be stronger if it became a part of another institution?
September 26, 2019

Live at ACDC19: The Future of Boarding School Enrollment [Podcast Ep.30]

When we set out to record a live podcast at our annual conference we were pretty nervous. How would it work to have an unscripted conversation with two industry thought leaders in a live environment?
September 26, 2019

We Need a Theme Song [Podcast Ep.31]

Are you tired of the stock music that introduces every episode of the podcast? So are we - and we need your help!
September 18, 2019

Is There an Independent School Tuition Bubble? [Podcast Ep.29]

How is tuition set each year at your school? Perhaps the board sets a 4% increase at budget season or maybe tuition is benchmarked in relation to local competition?
August 29, 2019

How to Create a Winning School Brand [Podcast Ep.28]

Whether you work at a small school or a larger institution you understand the value of your brand. But how can you leverage your brand to create superfans who internalize the values...
August 6, 2019

Meeting the Expectations of Today’s Independent School 'Buyers' [Podcast Ep.27]

Who owns the experience of parents while their child is enrolled at your school?
July 30, 2019

Changing a School's Operating System: An interview with Liz Schmitt and Tim Quinn [Podcast Ep.7]

In this episode we talk with Liz Schmitt, Chief Enrollment & Student Affairs Officer, and Tim Quinn, Chief Academic Officer, Miss Porter's School, changing a school's operating system.
July 30, 2019

Pricing, Mergers, and More - An interview with Chad Tew [Podcast Ep.9]

In this episode we talk with independent school consultant Chad Tew of Tew and Associates, about the tough questions keeping so many heads, boards, enrollment leaders, and school administrators up at
July 30, 2019

The College Admissions Scandal and More: Critical Legal Admission Issues in 2019 for School Leaders [Podcast Ep.23]

Debra Wilson, general counsel at NAIS and the SAIS president-elect, on the current issues and some lessons for independent schools.
July 30, 2019

Reinventing Your Tuition Model [Podcast Ep.17]

Peter and Hans talk with Head of School Noni Thomas Lopez and CFO Tom Cicatiello about their new Family Individualized Tuition (FIT) program, including its genesis and structure, working with their bo
July 30, 2019

The Journey to Headship: An interview with Jim Hamilton [Podcast Ep.2 ]

Peter and Hans chat with Jim Hamilton, associate head for external affairs at Brooks School in Massachusetts, about the transition from enrollment to headship.
July 30, 2019

Meet Peter and Hans [Podcast Ep.1]

We’re so pleased to announce our brand new podcast series, focusing on interviews with industry leaders to explore the central tenets of SEM.
July 30, 2019

The Tools You Need to Become An Effective Head of School [Podcast Ep.11]

In this episode we talk with John Farber, managing director at RG175, about the tools enrollment managers should learn about and consider implementing in order to make the climb to headship.
July 30, 2019

Implementing a Flexible Tuition Program [Podcast Ep.13]

In this episode we talk with Rick Branson, Head of School and Linda Dennison, Deputy Head of School and Chief Financial Officer from Indian Creek School, about why and how they developed, sold, and im
July 30, 2019

When Schools Close Their Doors - Strategies for Moving Forward [Podcast Ep.19]

Peter and Hans talk with Amy Jolly, former head of school at Maine Girls’ Academy, about the process of closing the school and finding new homes for its students.
July 30, 2019

Schools on Social - What's Working? What's Not? [Podcast Ep. 12]

In this episode we talk with Brendan Schneider of SchneiderB Media about what's working in school social media marketing...and what's not.
July 30, 2019

Recapping Major Themes: Numbers, Aid, Career [Podcast Ep.20]

Twenty episodes in, Peter and Hans take a break to recap the season.
July 30, 2019

Getting a "Degree" in Enrollment Management: An interview with Jerry Lucido [Podcast Ep.5]

In this episode we talk with Jerry Lucido, USC Center for Enrollment Research Policy & Practice, about getting a "degree" in enrollment management.
July 30, 2019

Making it Personal - National and Regional Enrollment Data and Your School [Podcast Ep.14]

In this episode we talk with NAIS' Myra McGovern, VP of media, and Joe Corbett, research analyst, about the latest issue and the national and regional data and trends that can make or break a school's
July 30, 2019

The Marketing and Enrollment Partnership: An interview with Stacy Jagodowski [Podcast Ep.6]

In this episode we talk with Stacy Jagodowski, independent school marketing veteran and a current strategic marketing consultant, about the marketing and enrollment partnership.
July 30, 2019

A Novel Approach to Tuition Setting [Podcast Ep.22]

Sally Keidel, head of school at Montgomery School (PA) on the decreased tuition model that’s part of Montgomery’s A Bold Move Forward strategic plan, and how she accounted for lost revenue to meet bud
July 30, 2019

Retention with Intention [Podcast Ep.21]

One of the first things Head of School Rik Dugan implemented when he arrived at Princeton Academy of the Sacred Heart was a comprehensive retention strategy.
July 30, 2019

The Explosion of International Schools: An interview with Richard Gaskell [Podcast Ep.8]

In this episode we talk with Richard Gaskell, Schools Director, ISC Research, about the explosion of international schools.
July 30, 2019

GOAL! Enrollment Marketing that Works [Podcast Ep.18]

Peter and Hans find out how Scott Allenby, director of marketing and strategic initiatives for Proctor Academy, creates and refines the school’s enrollment marketing strategy to hit yearly enrollment
July 30, 2019

Where Advancement Meets Enrollment [Podcast Ep.10]

In this episode we talk with Kathy Hanson, senior consultant and principal at Marts and Lundy, about the challenges that advancement teams face.
July 30, 2019

Demographics in Enrollment Management: An interview with Peace Bransberger [Podcast Ep.3]

In this episode we talk with Peace Bransberger, senior research analyst for the Western Interstate Commission for Higher Education (WICHE), about WICHE’s “Knocking at the College Door” reports.
July 30, 2019

The Business of Enrollment: An Interview with Jeff Shields [Podcast Ep.4]

In this episode we talk with Jeff Shields, president and CEO of the National Business Officers Association (NBOA), about the business of enrollment management.
July 30, 2019

Success in Numbers: Building the Boarding School Funnel [Podcast Ep.16]

Join Peter and Hans as they learn from Sheila Mitchell (formerly Miklos), VP of market growth & deputy managing director of TABS/NABI, how NABI has enabled boarding schools to work together towards ex

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